didn't Maduro win elections? why is he being framed as a dictator? by this token, why isn't trump a dictator? or EU political figures who are unpopular hy any measure?
Maduro most certainly lost last year's elections. It wasn't even close, with Edmundo Gonzalez winning about 70% compared to Maduro's 30%. Maduro then held on to power undemocratically.
this 70/30 split is according to ConVzla (a "political party" led by the Nobel awardee). not trustworthy at all. Maduro's party also won Parliamentary and governor elections. can't have fraud on one level and success on others. it doesn't make sense. except in Washington
As a venezuelan go fuck yourself. You can talk with my childhood friends that have been tortured (and killed) by Maduro, or the millions of inmigrants that have been forced out of or land. Our dictatorship is not there for you to make empty arguments about the west, you selfish and ignorant piece of shit. Speak with any venezuelan and they will give you a story about our dead brothers under this cruel regime.
No need for insults. Nobody doubts that there is suffering (though you should also question why there is suffering - who are causing it? Hint: it is not Maduro alone). Bring facts on the table. Are we supposed to just accept the “results” of an opposition party as the truth?
Hint: don't explain my country to me. You don't care about venezuelans and our sufering, you just want to use us to look smart in conversations about Trump. For your information I'm very critical of María Corina Machado and her views, but she is the only person willing to do something about the situation. Chavistas have changed the constitution, killed journalists and impresioned oposition. You can get arrested for having memes against the goverment in your phone, and don't you dare tell me that is western propaganda because I know people that have gone though that. They take students in manifestations, sometimes children as young as 15, and torture them. By your same logic, are we supposed to accept the word of a goverment that will not show proofs of their results (the actas), that have a history of inhabilitation of oposition candidates and that constantly murder and torture inocent citizens? You want us to suffer, and die of hunger, and live under police and militar brutality just so you can look smart, because you don't believe us, because it doesn't reinforce your agenda, that is the definition of a piece of shit. You gringos deserve Trump.
It seems like the real question is “what would come out of the chaos?” As you argued in the article, it is unlikely to be the peaceful democratic forces. Recall how the Bolsheviks took power.
It is very refreshing to see someone talk about the nuance of this situation without the idealism and polarization that abounds. Great work!
Seems like we're now in scenario B. The question is how and if the transition will occur.
didn't Maduro win elections? why is he being framed as a dictator? by this token, why isn't trump a dictator? or EU political figures who are unpopular hy any measure?
Maduro most certainly lost last year's elections. It wasn't even close, with Edmundo Gonzalez winning about 70% compared to Maduro's 30%. Maduro then held on to power undemocratically.
this 70/30 split is according to ConVzla (a "political party" led by the Nobel awardee). not trustworthy at all. Maduro's party also won Parliamentary and governor elections. can't have fraud on one level and success on others. it doesn't make sense. except in Washington
As a venezuelan go fuck yourself. You can talk with my childhood friends that have been tortured (and killed) by Maduro, or the millions of inmigrants that have been forced out of or land. Our dictatorship is not there for you to make empty arguments about the west, you selfish and ignorant piece of shit. Speak with any venezuelan and they will give you a story about our dead brothers under this cruel regime.
No need for insults. Nobody doubts that there is suffering (though you should also question why there is suffering - who are causing it? Hint: it is not Maduro alone). Bring facts on the table. Are we supposed to just accept the “results” of an opposition party as the truth?
Hint: don't explain my country to me. You don't care about venezuelans and our sufering, you just want to use us to look smart in conversations about Trump. For your information I'm very critical of María Corina Machado and her views, but she is the only person willing to do something about the situation. Chavistas have changed the constitution, killed journalists and impresioned oposition. You can get arrested for having memes against the goverment in your phone, and don't you dare tell me that is western propaganda because I know people that have gone though that. They take students in manifestations, sometimes children as young as 15, and torture them. By your same logic, are we supposed to accept the word of a goverment that will not show proofs of their results (the actas), that have a history of inhabilitation of oposition candidates and that constantly murder and torture inocent citizens? You want us to suffer, and die of hunger, and live under police and militar brutality just so you can look smart, because you don't believe us, because it doesn't reinforce your agenda, that is the definition of a piece of shit. You gringos deserve Trump.
Anyway this article explains very well why the oposition's data is way more trustworthy. But I bet you don't even speak spanish because that is the type of people that love to talk about latin american politics (and foreign politics in general) as a tool for their shitty "first world" countries discourse: https://elpais.com/america/2024-08-02/quien-gano-en-venezuela-los-datos-de-la-oposicion-son-mas-verificables-que-los-oficiales.html
you don't live in Venezuela. Your Machado and Maduro are one and the same: both proclaiming victors without proof.
It seems like the real question is “what would come out of the chaos?” As you argued in the article, it is unlikely to be the peaceful democratic forces. Recall how the Bolsheviks took power.
The title should be: "choosing between democracy or dictatorship"